Session I – What Lawyers Should Think About Before Starting a Podcast – Conrad Saam and Gyi Tsakalakis
Before launching a legal podcast, lawyers should approach the process strategically, as discussed by Conrad Saam and Gyi Tsakalakis on Lunch Hour Legal Marketing. Start by defining a clear purpose whether it's to attract clients, build authority, or grow referral networks—and align the podcast with broader marketing goals. Authenticity matters: Speak like a real person and focus on addressing your audience’s challenges rather than showcasing your résumé. While consistency remains crucial, so do frequency and length, shorter, weekly episodes tend to outperform longer, less frequent ones. Repurpose content into blog posts, clips, and social media to boost visibility, and invite guests to expand your influence. Begin with simple tech and always maintain ethical boundaries by avoiding legal advice and using clear disclaimers. Finally, measure impact not just through downloads but through client-reported attribution, recognizing that podcast exposure often leads to branded search behavior rather than direct landing page visits.
This course is co-sponsored with myLawCLE.
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Session II - Podcasting for Legal Professionals: Navigating Ethics, Branding & Compliance - Benjamin Gold
As legal professionals increasingly turn to podcasting to share stories, educate the public, and build their brands, it's essential to balance creativity with compliance. This session will focus on how to start and sustain a legal podcast, with particular emphasis on compliance, ethical considerations, and effective content strategy for law firms. Attorney and Lawyer Stories founder Benny Gold will break down recent changes to ABA Model Rule 7.2 and evolving state regulations around legal marketing. Participants will explore how to ethically and legally create podcast content, craft compliant calls to action and disclaimers, and build a strong brand voice without crossing ethical or legal boundaries. This session is ideal for lawyers looking to amplify their message while staying firmly within the lines of professional responsibility.
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This course is co-sponsored with myLawCLE.
Date / Time: August 28, 2025
Closed-captioning available
Conrad Saam | Mockingbird
After leading marketing efforts for Avvo, Conrad Saam founded Mockingbird, an online marketing agency focused exclusively on legal. Called the “oeGary V of Legal”, Conrad is the author of Own the Map published by the American Bar Association and The FindLaw Jailbreak Guide, co-host of Lunch Hour Legal Marketing with Gyi Tsakalakis, a Google Small Business Advisor, and held positions for various ABA’s Practice Management marketing committees.
A semi-professional bridge arsonist, Conrad enjoys publishing Cease and Desist letters from unscrupulous legal marketing vendors. He once bought the keyword, “oemesothelioma lawyer” for $4.76. Conrad is the proud owner of Zippy, the first and only chicken to be awarded the Lawyers of Distinction Top 10% Award, which recognizes lawyers duped into buying a $700 annual subscription to a plaque.
Gyi Tsakalakis | AttorneySync
Gyi Tsakalakis founded AttorneySync because lawyers deserve better from their marketing people. As a non-practicing lawyer, Gyi is familiar with the unique considerations of ethically and effectively marketing a law practice online. He regularly writes and speaks about online legal marketing. He’s always open to talking shop, but if you really want to get him fired up ask him about Michigan football, coffee, or whiskey.
Benjamin Gold | Lawyer Stories
Benjamin Gold is a 2002 graduate of the University of Massachusetts-Amherst and a 2006 graduate of Roger Williams University School of Law. Ben is licensed to practice law in Connecticut, Maine and Massachusetts and is the Executive Director of the North Central Massachusetts Housing Authorities. He is also the founder of Lawyer Stories, which he launched in July 2017. Lawyer Stories has evolved from a small series of posts on Instagram into a global network of diverse lawyers and law students connecting and sharing their stories. It is a community dedicated to featuring lawyers and law students’ narratives regarding their personal challenges, inspirations, and motivations before and during their journeys to enter the legal profession. Lawyer Stories can be found on Instagram @lawyer_stories and on Facebook.Com/Lawyerstories.
As of today, there are approximately 56k followers on Instagram and over 9k followers on Facebook. Lawyer Stories launched a podcast in February 2020; The Lawyer Stories Podcast with Benny Gold can be seen on YouTube and heard on Apple and Spotify amongst other platforms. Lawyer Stories has also hosted networking events in Miami, New York City, and Boston. The website is located at www.thelawyerstories.com.
Session I – What Lawyers Should Think About Before Starting a Podcast | 1:00pm – 3:10pm
Break | 2:00pm – 2:10pm
Break | 3:10pm – 3:20pm
Session II – Podcasting for Legal Professionals: Navigating Ethics, Branding & Compliance | 3:20pm -3:50pm